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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:06 PM

I've been playing my Dark Knight (Level 171) for about 2 years now (Slacker much). I'm having a total of 39% str equips but somehow I realize that my damage is much lower compared to other classes. My damage with Dark Impale is about 400k to 450k in total. I find that damage rather low compared with other classes. Should I continue or change job ?
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:10 PM

DrK has low dps and ignore defense. 0% status resistance. No guard/avoid/dodge/damage absorb skill.
But is generally welcomed to bosses for HB, has a godly life draining skill and high HP.

If what you are looking for is damage i suggest you just change your class to mihile or phantom or even wait for the next upcoming class because that is what you definitely wants if you are looking for damage..

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:16 PM

Should I sell of all my %STR equips and invest in a new job other than warrior ?
Because yes I do look forward to high damage but paying for %STR and %LUK items are actually kinda too pricy.
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:18 PM

View Postlocky92, on 13 April 2013 - 07:10 PM, said:


If what you are looking for is damage i suggest you just change your class to mihile or phantom or even wait for the next upcoming class because that is what you definitely wants if you are looking for damage..


View Postlocky92, on 13 April 2013 - 07:10 PM, said:


phantom or even wait for the next upcoming class because that is what you definitely wants if you are looking for damage..


Orly?

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:21 PM

But phantom is like getting nerfed soon you see.. and as I said %LUK equips aren't that affordable anymore
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:27 PM

View Postclifffordsfx, on 13 April 2013 - 07:21 PM, said:

But phantom is like getting nerfed soon you see.. and as I said %LUK equips aren't that affordable anymore


Phantom has relatively weak damage even before the nerf. Also, the prices of %LUK equips are dropping real fast now so buying them shouldn't be a problem.

Anyway on-topic: Don't continue your DrK if you're looking for high damage, or if you don't go bossing with a party often. On the other hand, should you still do the latter you can always play and main other classes/jobs provided your armor are tradable. (Main other jobs with potential to deal higher damage and only play your DrK for party-bossing purposes.)
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:34 PM

Hmm that is not a bad idea, thank you very much. Can I have more choices though ?
Besides phantom I would like a job that could produce satisfying damage although not spent much on.
I thought about Evan though but I find the quests rather long and annoying.
What do you think about bowman classes ?
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:43 PM

View Postclifffordsfx, on 13 April 2013 - 07:34 PM, said:

Hmm that is not a bad idea, thank you very much. Can I have more choices though ?
Besides phantom I would like a job that could produce satisfying damage although not spent much on.
I thought about Evan though but I find the quests rather long and annoying.
What do you think about bowman classes ?


NEVER play a bowman if you're seeking for high damage with low funds(at least for now since Marksmen will become one of the top DPS dealers after Hyper Evolution due to unlimited snipe.)

Then, you should really make your decisions based on the long-term. If you find Evan at late-game fun, it's not wise for you to not main one just because the quests are tedious. Similar feelings of annoyance are temporary.

Currently Mihile and Dual blade suit what you are looking for, so my suggestion would be <<<

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 08:46 PM

View PostwhiteRainbow, on 13 April 2013 - 07:18 PM, said:

Orly?

opps I mean db not phantom.
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 08:53 PM

With equal decent funding, db > phantom. But provided u dont overly fund it till like 500k range fully buffed. As a fellow who main phantom myself I feel sad for realizing if I have the same equips on my db which I play during leisurely, I could hit near capped damage faster.

In your case as a warrior, I strongly suggest either you jump to mihile now, or switch to kaiser which is coming in the tempest patch. I used to be a dark knight player too but until realizing nexon would not give a *oops* much about adventure classic warrior, I made a big decision by giving up my dk at lvl 189 and jumped over to phantom instead. But due to many circumstances, realizing I couldnt stand the 30 seconds duration nerf on impeccable memory which is coming real soon, I have decided to start funding equips for kaiser and later transferring all my equips from phantom to db.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:02 PM

Paladin heh?
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:04 PM

View PostEllette, on 13 April 2013 - 09:02 PM, said:

Paladin heh?


Paladin is fine too. But generally I dont encourage people to play it because somehow I find it kinda dull. But nevertheless its still a good class for low funding players.
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:39 PM

If you enjoy your drk, the no.
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 10:10 PM

Alright thanks a lot guys I'm gonna play my Mihile :)
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 10:23 PM

View Postclifffordsfx, on 13 April 2013 - 10:10 PM, said:

Alright thanks a lot guys I'm gonna play my Mihile :)


No problem. Here's a guide if u need one.

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Mihile

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All Rounder - Good at every thing, master at none. As attacker has high DPS, as mobber has Lazer, has double jump for mobility, has Achilles for defense as well as 60% status resistance, for supporter has unique rage that stacks with anything as well as mc.

Role:
Jack of all trades, master of none. Good but not the best. at everything

Pros:
• Extremely High HP. Easily 3xk HP without any buffs.
• No need to much funding. Easily deal cap damage at cygnus at 85k range
• Awesome horizontal ranged attack
• Extremely fast training (10% additional exp when lv up from lv 1 - 120)
• High weapon defense

Cons:
• Low number of attacks in main skill (4)

Mobility
4/5 for double jump

Hp/Defense
4/5 (3xk hp, 20% damage resistance, 60% status resistance, 2x def)

Control Friendliness
4/5

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8/10. Stackable Rage with any skills(even with rage from hero) + Ability to MC

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4th job: 4 pint Attack (Single attack) and Soul blast (Multi target + range) and it is aka Lazer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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5/5, One of the easiest to train class. I 200 in 4.5 days with first 2 days working in Morning + 8 hrs of sleep every day

Changes in his Role from the past
He has no past /heh

Popularity
Low. V Low. There isn't even a discussion topic for this class. /cry

Notable Places where it shines
Chaos Horntail, horntail, Pink bean, Cygnus

Extra Points to note
Mihile is gender lock, only Males

Extra Extra
My Mihile dealing Cap on Queen with 85k range
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 11:17 PM

View Postkennesu rimu, on 13 April 2013 - 09:04 PM, said:

Paladin is fine too. But generally I dont encourage people to play it because somehow I find it kinda dull. But nevertheless its still a good class for low funding players.

Last time,people claimed that Paladin can afk in boss,but somehow,DB now afk better then Paladin in boss,with a simple Dodge rate...(omg)
Ofcoz,before the max dodge rate nerf to 90%.
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 11:36 PM

General rule of thumb is newer classes are OP then nerfed like crap.

Now for me, the trend is going to revamped soul masters/xenon since xenon isn't nerfed yet.
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 11:54 PM

Their skill revamps won't be end...
try follow up KMS or at least GMS..
For warrior, I would suggest Kaiser or DemonSlayer.

strongly suggest u don't go for Mihail.. since u r those play for dmg de..
Mikhail now is pretty good, after all the class get revamp and hyper. at that time i hope your mihail dont cry ah F3
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 12:02 AM

View PostMarko1, on 13 April 2013 - 11:54 PM, said:

Their skill revamps won't be end...
try follow up KMS or at least GMS..
For warrior, I would suggest Kaiser or DemonSlayer.

strongly suggest u don't go for Mihail.. since u r those play for dmg de..
Mikhail now is pretty good, after all the class get revamp and hyper. at that time i hope your mihail dont cry ah F3


Now all eyes are on the newly revamped soul masters in kmst B)
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 12:30 AM

repeated all over and over again , play the job u enjoy the most , damage is all about fund , fastest att speed = most dps job ( if all the hits are max damage )
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 12:36 AM

View Postmongghost, on 14 April 2013 - 12:02 AM, said:

Now all eyes are on the newly revamped soul masters in kmst B)


yup.. i saw the skills info and videos on the first day. revamped koc have really high DPS..
let's see what will they do for adventurer. (old player ops)
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 12:38 AM

View Postmongghost, on 14 April 2013 - 12:02 AM, said:

Now all eyes are on the newly revamped soul masters in kmst B)
You mean it's better than kaiser?

View PostMarko1, on 14 April 2013 - 12:36 AM, said:

yup.. i saw the skills info and videos on the first day. revamped koc have really high DPS..
let's see what will they do for adventurer. (old player ops)
I hope they do something, but I really don't have much hope for them to even bother about the old "antique" classes.



What about wind archer? I thought that one is even more OP? Basically totally killed BMs and put even mercedes to shame /heh

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 01:18 AM

View PostPearlite, on 14 April 2013 - 12:38 AM, said:

You mean it's better than kaiser?

What about wind archer? I thought that one is even more OP? Basically totally killed BMs and put even mercedes to shame /heh


kaiser and soulmaster now the two top warrior bah. according to their dps..
yes wind breaker the best archer now. but seeing their revamp pattern.. other archer will eventually beat it maybe?
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 02:18 AM

View PostMarko1, on 14 April 2013 - 01:18 AM, said:

kaiser and soulmaster now the two top warrior bah. according to their dps..
yes wind breaker the best archer now. but seeing their revamp pattern.. other archer will eventually beat it maybe?
Which archer? Nova archer?
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 02:57 AM

View Postkennesu rimu, on 13 April 2013 - 10:23 PM, said:

No problem. Here's a guide if u need one.

Thanks ! Say, would it be wise if I fund for Mihile and then pass them on to Kaiser ?
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 08:29 AM

View Postclifffordsfx, on 14 April 2013 - 02:57 AM, said:

Thanks ! Say, would it be wise if I fund for Mihile and then pass them on to Kaiser ?


Well. Sure u can, the only difference is that mihile used 1 handed sword only and kaiser use 2 handed sword only. So dont invest too much on a 1 handed sword. Build ut equips more than ur weapon for the time being.
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 01:46 PM

View PostPearlite, on 14 April 2013 - 02:18 AM, said:

Which archer? Nova archer?


all other archers or new archer lo. just wait revamp nia F3
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 02:40 PM

View PostMarko1, on 14 April 2013 - 12:36 AM, said:

yup.. i saw the skills info and videos on the first day. revamped koc have really high DPS..
let's see what will they do for adventurer. (old player ops)

View PostPearlite, on 14 April 2013 - 12:38 AM, said:

You mean it's better than kaiser?

I hope they do something, but I really don't have much hope for them to even bother about the old "antique" classes.



What about wind archer? I thought that one is even more OP? Basically totally killed BMs and put even mercedes to shame /heh


It's premature to comment it yet, but revamped soul master seems flashy and maybe Kaiser still have the advantage to hit within a small time-frame window against bosses with damage reflect.
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 04:44 PM

View PostMarko1, on 14 April 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

all other archers or new archer lo. just wait revamp nia F3
I wonder whether there will be any OP mage class. lol. So far, none compared to other OP classes.
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 07:23 PM

View PostPearlite, on 14 April 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

I wonder whether there will be any OP mage class. lol. So far, none compared to other OP classes.


The last hope we only have now is Flame wizard and Nova mage ..
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